What Lib Dem members think of George Osborne’s autumn statement (and the two measures they oppose)

Lib Dem Voice has polled our members-only forum to discover what Lib Dem members think of various political issues, the Coalition, and the performance of key party figures. Some 550 party members responded, and we’re currently publishing the full results.

Lib Dem members give thumbs-up (mostly) to Osborne’s autumn statement

Two weeks ago, the Chancellor George Osborne updated MPs on the state of the economy and the government’s future plans in his Autumn Statement as the Office for Budget Responsibility published its latest growth and borrowing forecasts.

LDV asked: Do you support or oppose the following policies announced by the Chancellor?
[NB: results below are arranged in order of net popularity]

Raising the levy on bank profits

    Strongly support 64%
    Support 28%
    No view 4%
    Oppose 3%
    Strongly oppose 1%
    Net support: +88%

Reducing the increases in rail fares to 1% above inflation, rather than 3%

    Strongly support 43%
    Support 45%
    No view 7%
    Oppose 4%
    Strongly oppose 1%
    Net support: +83%

Spending £1bn on subsidising work placements for young unemployed people

    Strongly support 46%
    Support 40%
    No view 7%
    Oppose 5%
    Strongly oppose 2%
    Net support: +79%

Increasing the state pension age to 67 by 2026

    Strongly support 41%
    Support 44%
    No view 5%
    Oppose 7%
    Strongly oppose 3%
    Net support: +75%

Spending money on 35 new road and rail improvement schemes

    Strongly support 33%
    Support 50%
    No view 9%
    Oppose 6%
    Strongly oppose 2%
    Net support: +75%

Increasing out-of-work benefits in line with inflation

    Strongly support 30%
    Support 46%
    No view 11%
    Oppose 11%
    Strongly oppose 3%
    Net support: +62%

Following a two year pay freeze, limiting pay rises for public sector workers to 1% for two more years

    Strongly support 18%
    Support 44%
    No view 8%
    Oppose 23%
    Strongly oppose 8%
    Net support: +31%

Cancelling the planned 3p rise in fuel duty in January

    Strongly support 22%
    Support 26%
    No view 14%
    Oppose 25%
    Strongly oppose 12%
    Net support: +11%

Giving a £50 rebate on water bills to people living in the South-West

    Strongly support 8%
    Support 15%
    No view 47%
    Oppose 20%
    Strongly oppose 9%
    Net support: -6%

Increasing the discount for people buying their council house to 50%

    Strongly support 4%
    Support 11%
    No view 19%
    Oppose 34%
    Strongly oppose 33%
    Net support: -52%

Overall there was strong support among our sample of Lib Dem members for most of the key measures in the Chancellor’s autumn statement. Two policies which did not find favour were (1) the £50 water bill rebate for those living in the south-west, probably because the relief is targeted to a region but not according to income/wealth (and besides almost half expressed no view on it); and (2) increasing the discount for people buying their council house, an overwhelmingly unpopular idea among Lib Dems at a time of high and increasing shortages of social housing.

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17 Comments

  • I was in two minds for how to answer the “Spending money on 35 new road and rail improvement schemes”. I would suspect that had you asked this as two separate questions the answers might be rather different to what you have above; I’d have been in Oppose for the first and Strongly Support the second. Regardless of spending and growth considerations, some of us still have environmental principles and a weak economy is no justification to turn a blind eye to bulldozing valuable sites for dubious gains.

  • Unfortunately the questions weren’t nuanced enough. As usual. For most of them I answered positively but only because it was better than nothing. If there had been an option to vote for manifesto policies (e. g. reduction in train fares) I would have done so.

  • Foregone Conclusion 14th Dec '11 - 5:50pm

    Do we really hate public sector workers that much as a party?

  • Foregone Conclusion 14th Dec '11 - 6:13pm

    Also, I think a regional breakdown for the water question would be interesting…

  • No one mentioned the broken promises on ‘Child Poverty’?

  • John Richardson 14th Dec '11 - 7:06pm

    The result so far are pretty disappointing. Backing Tory policies, like a four year public sector pay freeze, as part of a coalition process is one thing but outright support? I wonder if the results would be same if we were not in government. Is the party suffering a degree of cognitive dissonance?

  • Daniel Henry 14th Dec '11 - 7:35pm

    @Foregone Conclusion
    I prefer pay freezes to making people unemployed.

    I prefer our manifesto promise even more though – cap increases at £400 – more than 1% for the lowest paid and less for the highest.

  • paul barker 14th Dec '11 - 7:49pm

    On The Pension age I feel we need to develop a Consensus that there should be a rise of at least one Year in every Parliament.

    On Council Flats I feel pulled both ways. Obviously we need to expand the provision of Social Housing, especially outside Big Cities. But, living on a Council Estate I would like to increase the numbers of Middle Class people , one Class ghettos are not a good idea.

  • John Richardson 14th Dec '11 - 7:55pm

    Pay freezes v redundancies is a false dichotomy. The chancellor has any number of other options. The main reason he’s extending the pay freeze from 2 years to 4 years is to pay for the failure of his economic policy in the last 18 months. This, on top of increased pension contributions and high inflation, will make an enormous difference to the income of public sector workers. Possibly as much as a 20% real-terms pay cut. The manifesto proposal was reasonable for 2 years but not 4 and not in conjunction with the other measures. I’m sure the public sector unions are going to have a lot more to say about this in the coming months and years.

  • David Rogers 15th Dec '11 - 7:58am

    I agree with ‘foregone conclusion’ about a regional breakdown of responses – not just for the water bills question. It would improve what I think is called the granularity of this survey, as would an indication of how closely the age profile of responses matches that of the party’s membership as a whole. Or indeed, that of the country!
    In my view, on the water question, there would be almost total support from LDV members living in the southwest, where so much of the region’s coastline is enjoyed by visitors from elsewhere in the country – but the clean-up costs are not shared equitably…..
    However, there are always other questions which are wholly or mainly of interest to only one region – usually London – or the nations of Scotland/Wales. They are about political instituions which are unique to those areas, which have little impact on the rest of us. It would be useful to see how metropolitan attitudes differ from those of us who live in the real world, even (as I do) relatively near the capital compared with most.

  • There is no sign that Osbornes measures aince 2010 are actually working.The autumn statement was less harsh than it could havr been, Dut does anyone really believe they’re ever going to deliver? The tinkering at the edges is welcome up to a point..

  • Liberal Neil 15th Dec '11 - 11:06am

    @Foregone Conclusion – I said that I opposed the public sector pay restraint as Osbourne has set it out for the following reasons:

    1 I don’t believe that we can afford to increase the amount we pay on public sector salaries overall at al.

    2 If there is any rise it should be limited in cash terms not percentage terms, so that it helps those at the bottom, not the already well paid. In fact I think we need a policy of deliberatly reducing the packages for those at the top of the public secor pay scale to fund cash rises for those at the bottom.

    3 For every 100 people employed in the public sector a 1% salary rise means someone loses their job. I would rather see 100 people employed on 100% of their current income than 99 people employed on 101% of their current income.

  • Liberal Neil 15th Dec '11 - 11:09am

    On the degree to which these surveys represent the party membership, I suspect they aren’t fully representative. They are almost certainly skewed towards younger members who spend more of their time on the internet than the average member.

    However that doesn’t mean they aren’t a reasonable indicator where the results go very heavily one way.

    I’m sure they also serve a useful purpose in driving traffic to the site!

  • The majority of the questions were about motherhood and apple pie. Few would even think of opposing “Raising the levy on bank profits”, for example. The conclusion that “Lib Dem members give thumbs-up (mostly) to Osborne’s autumn statement” was a…. well, see the name of commenter number 3!

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