Charles Kennedy: I’ll go to my grave with my Lib Dem membership card in my pocket

Charles Kennedy has set the record straight over rumours of his defection which kept the political tweeters and bloggers buzzing yesterday whilst everyone else sensibly got on with their Saturday. As Scotland on Sunday reports, he made the comments after a meeting with constituents in Dingwall.

It is absolute rubbish, I am not joining the Labour Party and have not had any discussions about it with anyone from the Labour Party.

I will go out of this world feet first with my Lib Dem membership card in my pocket.

Ed Miliband has also agreed that no talks have taken place on Kennedy joining Labour.

As we reported yesterday, the false rumours appear to have originated in a blog article by Mark Seddon and may have rather more to do with the Labour leadership contest between the Milibands than the Lib Dems.

(Scotland on Sunday might also want to update the “Today’s Vote” section on their website which is currently asking readers to vote on “Should Gordon Brown call a general election immediately? “)

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22 Comments

  • Noisy Tappet 22nd Aug '10 - 8:31am

    A great pity. I hoped it was true. The sooner Kennedy gets back to the Labour Party or vanishes altogether, the better for the LibDems.

  • Rich it is indeed true Labour have been anything but left wing ovrt the last 20 years or so however they still havnt sold their political soul to become part of the most right wing administration in a generation.
    I never tire of saying it shame on you all.

  • Grammar Police 22nd Aug '10 - 10:47am

    “Most right wing administration in a generation”? Where have you been for the last 13 years?

    I’m certainly no fan of the Tories, but even you can’t deny they won more seats than a tired, discredited, sometimes hated Labour party.

    A national debt of £4trillion, that would condemn our children, and our children’s children (etc) to a much poorer quality of life than our own, foreign wars entered into on false pretences – these are just some of the things that will prevent me from getting tired of saying shame on all you Labour apologists.

  • “they [Labour] still havnt sold their political soul to become part of the most right wing administration in a generation”

    So the coalition that’s just scrapped ID cards, child contact database, curtailed stop/search powers, ended child immigrant detention, proposed prison reform — that’s the most right wing government? I seem to remember the illegal irag war, collusion in torture, internment of terror suspects etc etc.

    As for selling souls, think about all the hand-wringing ex-government ministers at the chilcott enquiry revealing their private doubts about the legality and intelligence of the iraq war but saying nothing at the time – presumably because they wanted to keep their jobs. They could collectively have stopped britain’s role in that war – when your self-interested decesion results in the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives; that’s selling your soul, my friend.

  • Oooooh defencive or what must have touched a nerve yes the Blair Brown era was a disgrace thats why so many voted for you as an alternative to the two horrible options.And what happens you join the worse of the two evils in their swivel eyed demolition of what remains of the post war settlement.
    Why do you assume the naysayers on here are all Labour apologists(makes the detestation easier to explain away dose it) but I am really offended at the accusation of trolling when my fury at your short sighted support of the vile Torys is very real.
    Oh and Alan I bow to your superior knowlage of soul selling as I do to your superior knowlage of smug patronising condecention “my friend”.

  • @Dave Page
    I’m sorry, but really? My family left the party over the semi-privatization of schools and hospitals, the increase in VAT and other budget measures.

  • “I never tire of saying it shame on you all” – and that isn’t condescending? I have serious doubts about the coalition with the tories – the benefits we draw may well be outweighted by the negatives. but it’s the black-and-white semantics i have a problem with; collaborators (prescott), vile, evil, trolls, soul-selling, apologists etc. things ain’t that simple.

  • @Rich

    If civil liberties are of paramount importance to LibDems, explain to me how it is that LibDem members of the coalition are supporting increased use of credit rating agencies to pry into the spending habits of those who claim benefits? And while you are at it, explain why there has been no uproar about this from LibDem activists on this site.

  • Are they supporting it, and what exactly are they suporting? We don’t actually know the full details on how use of credit agencies would work, and media reporting has been highly speculative in some cases. Using credit agency data to detect fraud is already, to an extent, happening and perfectly acceptable if part of targeted investigations (even the information commissioner agrees with that). Where it’s not acceptable is for fishing expeditions that trawl through every benefit claimant in the country (which breaches data protection, human rights laws), If the latter is the case (and i’ve not found a definitive government statement to back that up) i would expect the lib dems to oppose.

  • toryboysnevergrowup 22nd Aug '10 - 3:03pm

    “The reactions to this from Labour members have made it clear they don’t get the whole civil liberties angle that lib dems tend to believe very strongly in”

    So that’s why this forum is more concerned about the abolition of the FCO Human Rights report than the future of Charles Kennedy is it?

  • Stop with the troll I voted for your parrty because Labour were indeed a busted flush and the Torys screwed me in the 80s.What happens you prop up a Tory administration which despite your tinkering at the edges has already shown itself to be more brutal and backward looking than I ever feared.And fear is what me and many of my workmates and family feel at this time.So if you feel patronised tough I feel betrayed and deeply pessimistic for my and my childrens future.Lib Dems look at my heart felt comments then into your hearts.
    HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOU FEEL.

  • I sometimes wonder if people like R Patey and others live in the real world. David Cameron did not get enough seats in parliament to form a stable government so just consider the alternatives to the current coalition.

    1. Conservative minority government: It would not have lasted more than a few months and would have ceated an impression in the rest of the world the Britain was going the way of Greece. What would that have done for jobs and our futures?

    2. Coalition with Labour. This would still have been dependent on other small parties for its existence and the government would have had to offer a disproportionate increase in funding to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in order to achieve the co-operation of their MPs. In any case, did you really want to keep people like Mandelson and Straw in government??

    What we have at present is a fresh approach to tackling this country’s problems with Lib Dems exercising a strong influence over policy. Is that not about the best possible outcome under present circumstances?

    Patey asks how I feel. I feel very PROUD that our party has stepped up to the mark and acted in a responsible and statesman-like way. As I go round canvassing for our local elections, I have no hesitation in telling people that the Lib Dems have saved our country. We now have stable government for 5 years with Lib Dems having a greater opportunity than has existed for generations to bring in Lib Dem policies.

    Think about the reality of what we HAVE achieved rather than what we have not.

  • I believe we should take very close notice of what R Patey is trying to say, especially this –

    Stop with the troll I voted for your parrty because Labour were indeed a busted flush and the Torys screwed me in the 80s.What happens you prop up a Tory administration which despite your tinkering at the edges has already shown itself to be more brutal and backward looking than I ever feared.And fear is what me and many of my workmates and family feel at this time.So if you feel patronised tough I feel betrayed and deeply pessimistic for my and my childrens future.Lib Dems look at my heart felt comments then into your hearts.

    This IS how many people, rightly or wrongly feel, I myself can empathise with ‘ Torys screwed me in the 80s’ and I also feel that all we are doing is ‘tinkering at the edges’ of what are considered Thatcher mkII policies. Yes we have gained some things from the coalition but I can’t help thinking the price, in the long term, is too high, not just for the LibDems but for voters like R Patey.
    @ John Earle, Yes I do live in the real world, where do You live I wonder? not in the same place as mr r patey I bet.

  • @Nathan: ‘My family left the party over the semi-privatization of schools and hospitals, the increase in VAT and other budget measures.’ I assume you are talking about Labour then? With the creation of academies and foudnation hospitals?

    I don’t like either, but Labour and the Tories both move against the democratically accountable support we want. Wheras a Lib Dem majority wouldn’t. So you are welcome to campaign for a Lib Dem Majority next time.

  • @Kehaar ‘Tell that to Simon Hughes who thinks MPs can carry on voting as if in Opposition whilst having the ear of Government.’

    Erm. They can. Its called parliamentary democracy and a coalition. It really is quite fun, new and means that a centralising authoritarian party (most recently Labour, but perhaps the Tories if they weren’t clipped by us) can’t just whip through what it want (be it a war, criminalisation of children for not attending school or control oders).

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