Nick Clegg has written about the need to reform the House of Lords in today’s Mirror in response to the latest mini-scandal concerning Lord Hanningfield. When I read the first sentence, my blood pressure hit the roof:
What’s worse than a greedy Lord clocking in to work for just a few minutes a day to pocket hundreds of pounds from the taxpayer?
What’s worse is when the same peer – caught red handed as a result of the Mirror’s excellent investigative efforts – shrugs their shoulders and tells you: everybody’s doing it.
But there are lots of good ones who work really hard, on all sides of the House, I raged. Well, if I’d just waited a second, I’d have seen that Nick thinks that too.
Thankfully, Lord Hanningfield is wrong: there are plenty of hardworking men and women in the House of Lords doing a brilliant job.
Tireless public servants, who arrive early, stay late to vote, and spend hours poring over the detail of legislation. They feel honoured and privileged to be serving the public in this way.
There’s only one solution that’s going to properly work – elect the Lords:
That’s why last year the Liberal Democrats tried to drag the House of Lords into the 21st Century. We pushed to introduce elections for the Lords, rather than peers simply being appointed by party leaders as they are now. It would be far better to have Lords who have to earn the support of voters and who are answerable to the people.
And he’s clear where the blame for that plan’s failure lies:
Yet when push came to shove, it wasn’t enough. Tory backbenchers were determined to protect the old system of patronage. The Labour party saw an opportunity to score a point against the government. So they teamed up and killed off our plan for elected Lords.
He believes we’ll get there in the end, though:
The British people deserve better. This latest scandal must re-energise our call for change. At the next election, my party’s manifesto will once again contain a clear commitment to an elected second chamber. I accept that, in this parliament, the Liberal Democrats have lost the battle for an elected House of Lords.
But we haven’t lost the war. Reforming our parliament has always happened bit by bit. Most of us can still remember the days when hereditary peers would pass away and their place in the House of Lords would simply be taken by their children, no questions asked. If that can change, with enough grit and determination, we can finally get to a democratic system too.
But, in the meantime, there are other useful steps we can take:
I have also signalled that the Government will support moves in parliament to kick out crooks and create sanctions for Lords who barely turn up.
Let’s get on with these changes, but let’s not take our eye off the bigger prize. I remain convinced that no amount of housekeeping or tinkering will bring about the fundamental change needed to clean up the Lords for good.
The only long-term antidote to dodgy office holders taking taxpayers for granted is simple: elections. In other words, making sure that peers know the people are their boss.
You can read the whole article here.
* Newshound: bringing you the best Lib Dem commentary published in print or online.
Follow @LibDemVoice on Twitter
Like us on Facebook
Subscribe to our feed
Sign-up for our daily email digest
Six ghosts stolen from York in night-time raid
The gifted champagne socialist
The Story of Sex: From Apes to Robots, by Philippe Brenot and Laetitia Coryn
Conference Live to run alongside virtual spring federal conference
A Community Christmas - later today! #dundeewestend
Government by diktat
Michael BG
Jeff
Joe Bourke
Martin
8 Comments
Could not the Commons proceed with David Steel’s Bill, beefing it up where necessary? It would be a start.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18858403
Well at least Viscount Falkland has left the Lib Dems and now sits as a crossbencher.
https://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-peer-admits-exploiting-expenses-loophole-16761.html
But he seems to have stayed in the party for a couple of years after admitting in 2009 that he had “exploited a loophole” to claim £140,000 by stating that his main residence was a converted oast house which belonged to his wife’s aunt. Did Nick Clegg ever take any action against him?
Agree with Frank Little – this is the same Clegg who rejected the Steel Bill – I’m, all for a bit of inconsistency and people changing their mind – but Clegg really takes the biscuit. As for kicking out the crooks – the Clegg plan for Lords reform with 15 year terms elected by party list gave no opportunity to kick out anyone and would have been a recipe for Lord Griffin of BNP.
@Caracatus
Of course he did – why would he support the Steel Bill (which had already been gutted of the more ‘radical’ proposals before it got to the Commons anyway) when he was pressing for his own reforms? The reforms also proposed STV (to which the joint committee added an above the line party list option). As for the somewhat stale anti-PR (and anti-democratic) argument of “Lord Griffin of BNP” – if the BNP polls <8% nationally, what makes you think they can get the ~20% required under a regional-based PR election?
“We pushed to introduce elections for the Lords, rather than peers simply being appointed by party leaders as they are now. It would be far better to have Lords who have to earn the support of voters and who are answerable to the people.”
In which case why did he push for a reform where Lords would be appointed from a party-list for 15 years with no option for re-election? How does that make them “answerable to the people”, or require them to “earn the support of voters”? What you would have ended up with was a chamber of toadies and failed career politicians representing the electoral support of the parties a decade or more ago.
I’m all for an elected House of Lords but you have to admit the actual system on offer in 2012 was a dog’s dinner barely any better than the existing system and deserved to be rejected. Here’s hoping next time they come back with something halfway decent.
‘Recipe for Lord Nick Griffin’
We may not like the BNP but if people want to vote for them then of course they should be in parliament. Its called democracy. As long as they’re not breaking the law then their views and opinions are entitled to be heard no matter how abhorrent we think they are.
Electing them won’t stop this kind of “clock on and clear off” fiddle. Look at Brussels.
There are a whole lot of issues here:
Firstly: reports and television do tend to give the impression that the main, even the only, work of legislative chambers, is being present in debates. There is even a danger that this is applied, wrongly, to party conferences.
If you are an MP or a peer, a day’s work could be value for money, even if you hardly ever go into the chamber that day. You should be assessing the possible ways you could spend that day and be doing the ones that are most effective to help your constituents and party. Office-based work or other meetings may take higher priority.
Secondly: The abuse that Lord Hanningfield alleges is quite wrong. If a peer is signing in (which is the only way he or she gets a days pay) and then devoting him/herself to something unrelated to the duties, this is bad. It is also the sort of thing that happens in a lot of other jobs, and there are grey areas, where it is quite hard to tell whether someone is bunking off or actually working for the job in an unconventional manner. So wrong but not trivial to control.
Thirdly: We clearly shouldn’t have convicted criminals as legislators, and there should be some mechanism to expel them. But we need some care in implementing these powers. Dictatorial regimes have used such powers to subvert democracy, so some countries now actually prevent prosecution of elected representatives.
Fourthly: It is silly, and a throw back to the hereditary principle, to have peerages for life. There needs to be some way for peers to retire or take leave of absence.
Fifthly: Some people are making an issue of the size of the Upper Chamber as presently constituted. What the best size is clearly related to how active peers as a whole are in parliament.
Even after the failure of the original full reform proposed by the DPM, there is a lot of tidying up that needs to be done!