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For liberal, independent voices

This is a liberal site, a place for discussion amongst liberals, and those who are supporters or members of the Liberal Democrats. But it is an independent site, and welcomes those with different views , as long as there is respect.

On the most important decision and issue for many, currently, it is the moment for liberal and independent voices.

The decision and display of and by Martin Schulz, the leader of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, to push for, as a declaration of intent for coalition, ” a united States of Europe ” has changed the nature of this debate for Liberals and any of an independent disposition. He goes so far as to , more than imply, but to encourage those states who do not agree to leave the EU. This attitude and all that goes with it, spells the destruction of the EU as it is, and changes the naysayers of Brexit, and those who voted Remain, myself included, to reconsider.

I am no Europhile. Nor am I a Eurosceptic. I am a Europragmatist. I have, as one of part Italian and Irish origin, a view,  in no way as sentimental, in favour of the EU project. It is  in my view, a project. It is not, nor should it be a state, super, or not. We cannot be supporters of individuals and nations, of localism in our Liberalism, and back the creation of a superstate, a continent as a country, a Leviathan.

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  • User AvatarChris Rennard 17th Aug - 3:38pm
    I like it. I think that it is much better, for example, than ‘Open, Tolerant, United’ which was an ‘internal’ message and of no use...
  • User AvatarInnocent Bystander 17th Aug - 3:24pm
    " and expect anything real in return. You aren’t going to get it!" Apart, of course, from the very real houses, infrastructure, industry sectors, power...
  • User Avatarpaul barker 17th Aug - 3:22pm
    @Michael1 I look at all the Local Byelections where we stood either this time or last time, at when the last Election in the Seat...
  • User AvatarPeter Watson 17th Aug - 3:07pm
    @David Raw "this message will boomerang back referring to the Coalition years" To be fair, it's hard to imagine any slogan fixing that particular problem!...
  • User AvatarLorenzo Cherin 17th Aug - 3:01pm
    Or a rallying cry for liberal Tories trying to regain their party... ...Things can only get wetter...!
  • User AvatarLorenzo Cherin 17th Aug - 2:59pm
    I thought I did't like it at first, then read the article and reconsidered, then see too much against it here and wonder what the...