Lib Dems GAIN another Council seat in Sunderland

Only two by-elections tonight and we are off to a good start.

And we did kind of hammer them.

LD Martin Haswell 1251
Lab 807
Con 126
Green 39

When we stood in the ward in 2016, we got 91 votes.

This is becoming a habit!. Last year, we gained another seat in Sunderland with a 33% swing.

Well done.

* Caron Lindsay is Editor of Liberal Democrat Voice and blogs at Caron's Musings

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  • paul barker 1st Feb '18 - 11:41pm

    We went from 4% & 4th place in 2016 to 54% in a solid Labour Seat on the banks of the Wear, a Seat where UKIP were in a good 2nd place last time.

  • Lorenzo Cherin 2nd Feb '18 - 12:05am

    This is of each the list thus far, a result really to study, was the candidate known, unusual, popular, was the seat a controversial one in it’s situation, re the disgruntlement, was the campaign different, was it leaflet dominated or meetings?

    Anyone know?

  • Allan Brame 2nd Feb '18 - 12:09am

    No word from Theakes?

  • Shows what can be done when people work and make an effort – and when Tim Farron goes to help. See Mark Pack’s site.

  • Falmouth Smithwick (Cornwall) result:

    LAB: 60.2% (+19.9)
    CON: 17.2% (-7.2)
    LDEM: 17.2% (-1.7)
    GRN: 5.3% (-11.0)

    Labour HOLD.

    This used to have a Lib Dem MP. Will there be an in depth inquiry to find out why ?

  • Superb. And the ward was previously held by the Labour council leader apparently.

  • Falmouth, this is Cornwall where in 2005 we held every Parliamentary seat and should be seen as the radical challenger in the Council where we hold over 35 seats, many times morfe than Labour. Dare I say it here but this is a very good result for Labour. Just shows how far we have f allen in what was one of our main major areas of influence.
    If we are to be seen as a web site of knowledge and influence it is essential we print both the rough and the smooth.

  • David Becket 2nd Feb '18 - 9:41am

    Yes, well done, but the party needs to look very carefully into what happened in Falmouth

  • Chris Bertram 2nd Feb '18 - 10:32am

    @David Raw – I’d put that down to sympathy vote for Labour, as the byelection was caused by the death of Candy Atherton, former MP for the area. Plus, the Labour candidate would have name recognition as the candidate in the GE last year. Note that Labour advanced at everyone else’s expense – but that we suffered less than the Tories or the Greens, whose vote contines to shrivel everywhere. In Sunderland they were down to 1.7% and only 39 votes.

    UKIP didn’t bother standing in Falmouth. Their showing in Sunderland, where they’ve previously done well, suggests that they really should pack up and go home.

  • nvelope2003 2nd Feb '18 - 11:54am

    Falmouth Smethwick Result: Apart from the period 2005 – 2010 when Julia Goldsworthy ws MP for Falmouth and Camborne you would have to go back to 1923 and 1929 when this area last had Liberal MPs. Judging by the views expressed here about West Country Liberalism I would have thought a Labour victory would have been more than welcome. Not surprisingly some of them have given up in despair.

  • paul barker 2nd Feb '18 - 12:51pm

    The 2 results yesterday are certainly far apart but both are within our current range of performance, that range is very wide indded which is why I advocate making averages to get some sort of grip on whats happening overall.
    Overall we seem to be continuing our slow improvement.
    The striking point about the Falmouth result is the increase in The Labour vote, our Vote fell less than either The Tories or The Greens & we came very close to overtaking The Tories.

  • Tony Dawson 2nd Feb '18 - 1:02pm

    As former Joint Organiser and later Chair of the combined Sunderland Lib Dems, (1980-84!) I try to keep in touch with my previous stomping ground.

    This ward was apparently won by good old ALC (NOT ‘ALDC – it’s a lot older than that 😉 ) community politics in an area where Labour take everyone for granted. With a few upgrades, of course. Well done to all those involved. It just shows that a ‘new wave’ of Lib Dem blooms can emerge from the driest desert after ‘wipe out’. Just a shame we have to go through the unnecessary ‘wipe out’ in the first place.

  • David Raw: this seat at Westminster has been represented by all three main parties in the last 25 years I do believe, The outgoing Labour councillor was the former Labour MP who sadly died of cancer, this in itself changes the electoral dynamic. And, as anyone who knows anything about Cornish politics will tell you, it often confounds the non local pundit!

  • paul barker 2nd Feb '18 - 2:18pm

    Labour List has an interesting explanation for our gain in Sunderland : apparently we printed our leaflets in Red & White ! LL descibe this as “Sneaky”.

  • A lot of unnecessary doom and gloom over Falmouth. According to Britain Elects this ward was Independent until taken by Labour. We have never held it. The result this time was similar to previous elections for us. The safest Lib Dem constituency, which this never was, will have the odd ward where we come nowhere. Cracking result in Sunderland!

  • @ Chris Bertam I wasn’t aware of Candy Atherton’s death and I’m very sorry indeed to hear of it.

  • Dave G Fawcett 2nd Feb '18 - 6:59pm

    The Sunderland team are young, very committed, hard working and prepared to be hard hitting. Pallion is the third ‘rock-solid’ Labour held ward that they have wrested from a ‘dinosaur’ Labour party in less than 2 years – the first in the local elections and the other two in by-elections since – and all from a very low base. One of their leaflets was headed ‘Labour does nowt. Kick em out’. One of our Gateshead Councillors suggested that, whatever magic potion they had, they should bottle it and make it available to the party. In truth though there is no magic potion; just a moribund and sclerotic city Labour party and a few young people who are prepared to work above and beyond the call of duty. It must also be mentioned that party members from all round Tyne & Wear, Tees-side and County Durham piled in to help too. An all round regional team effort led by our leaders of the future.

  • Tony Greaves 2nd Feb '18 - 11:59pm

    Not bad at all…

  • Tony Greaves 3rd Feb '18 - 12:02am

    Some people here are too quick to see doom and gloom everywhere. In general we have been doing very well in Devon and Cornwall by-elections. Falmouth is the one bit of Cornwall that used to have Labour MPs, and there are the local factors too that people have noted.

  • For clarity I am not sure the leaflets were actually (physically) printed in red – sometimes pdfs are produced with red (as it is easier) to send to a Riso printing machine where actually the second drum in the machine is orange – you can make the second spot colour any colour you like in the pdf but it will use the ink that is in the second Riso drum.

    The internet chain is that Labour list quotes Politics home which has a tweet from the local Lib Dems which attaches a “photo” that looks as if it was generated from such a pdf. Its clearly not a photo from a physical leaflet as it is not crumpled etc.

    A comment at also suggests this is probably the case.

  • nvelope2003 4th Feb '18 - 8:56am

    Barry Long: All the same the Falmouth result was a bit of a disappointment in a county where the party has been doing well but at least the there was only a slight decline in the percentage of the votes. Sunderland was a tonic in the gloom of winter.

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