4 December – perhaps even our friends in Europe think that it’s farewell…

Well, it’s the end of another day of Brexit chaos. Who rules our country, one might ask, the Conservatives or the Democratic Unionists, all ten of them? Stay tuned for tomorrow’s episode of “Sorry, we haven’t a clue”, starring Theresa May and the Conservative Party…

The problem is that our former partners are increasingly convinced that, whilst our Government is probably crazy, they are intent on following this through. What Europe wants now is to end this, so as to be able to move on with its long term agenda.

Unfortunately, there wasn’t time to write this week’s preview of the week in the Lords, for which I apologise. But it’s time for some music again, and we turn the clock back a bit from last week, to 1772. It is said that Prince Nikolaus Esterházy had kept his musicians at his country estate for longer than they were keen to remain, and so, rather than confront his employer directly, Joseph Haydn wrote the final movement of his Symphony no.45. It seems as though the Prince took the hint…

Joe, take it away…

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  • Colin Paine 5th Dec '17 - 7:33am

    If DUP holding country to ransom, Lib Dems to offer May a soft Brexit coalition, with support from Labour remainers, conditions being staying in customs union and single market?

  • Colin,
    Not our role to help May. They made their bed lie in it. Even if you tried, it would fail, Admiral wee Mogg and co (at least 30 of them) would have a hissy fit and hard Brexit would be back on. I’m afraid the small row boat of the Lib Dems can’t stop the Titanic of the Tory party going down (unfortunate we will all be dragged under with it. Still hopefully the country will eventually bob up). This is a disaster made by the Tory party and given they are split and clueless the best thing any other party can do is shout advice through a loud hailer and don’t get involved in their actual fisticuffs. I know it’s frustrating to see this clown fight going on, but alas all we can hope is eventually they’ll stop throwing custard (I hope it’s custard) at each other and start to actually put the country before personal and party ambitions.

  • Mick Taylor 5th Dec '17 - 8:59am

    Sorry Colin. No coalition with the Tories if we wish to have any MPs at all at the next election. Labour retainers are anyway totally gutless, so your ambition is futile.

  • Mick Taylor 5th Dec ’17 – 8:59am………………Sorry Colin. No coalition with the Tories if we wish to have any MPs at all at the next election. Labour retainers are anyway totally gutless, so your ambition is futile………….

    Frankie has it about right…It is not our, nor Labours, task to ‘interfere’ with the Tory process…
    It would be just like taking sides in a marital tiff; in the end both sides would unite in blaming the outsider…We made our first (of many) mistake in coalition in accepting that the ‘NHS Reorganisation’ could be made to work…It was a BAD bill and attempting to make it a little less bad was the start of the collapse in voter trust..

    Tories have always been split on Europe; what we are seeing now is that split ‘red in tooth and claw’…We, and Labour, should stay well clear…

  • Steve Trevethan 5th Dec '17 - 9:27am

    Perhaps the facilitation of a soft Brexit/Norway option is better than a return to civil war in Ireland?

  • Mark, Mozart’s Requiem is probably more appropriate, – with the added point that we’re not sure who is writing the added bits.

  • Richard Underhill 5th Dec '17 - 12:30pm

    Say “Norway” in the Commons and MPs may recall the Norway debate, as a Speaker did before he resigned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Martin,_Baron_Martin_of_Springburn
    It is terminal.

  • Who rules our country, one might ask, the Conservatives or the Democratic Unionists, all ten of them?

    The same sentiment could be applied to the 2010 Coalition, I think what the DUP are showing is political balls! Given what the DUP seems to have achieved, it does raise serious questions over the way the LibDems approach working with other parties and specifically the Conservatives.

  • Neil Sandison 5th Dec '17 - 2:44pm

    Listening to David Davis responding to urgent questions .he might not want to call it a customs union for fear of offending the DUP and the Brexit zealots but what he is proposing is a UK /Ireland version of one based around regulatory alignment . We will certainly need a customs and pass porting arrangements for a country heavily reliant on service and financial industries and to support free movement of goods and materials in manufacturing chains which are cross border.

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