How to send your views to the Lib Dem elections review

Over 22,000 (yes, twenty-two thousand) submissions have already been made to the party’s independent review into the general and European elections. But that’s not stopping the review team, headed up by Dorothy Thornhill, from wanting to hear more…

One opportunity to do that in person is at the party’s spring conference in York, from 10:10am on Saturday 14 March in the main conference hall.

But don’t worry if you can’t make it to the party conference.

You can also send your views by email to Dorothy and the team on [email protected]. They can be both personal views or those on behalf of a party group or body.

There have also been many different local or regional feedback events organised around the country too. Write-ups from those are also very welcome.

This post first appeared on the Liberal Democrat website and is also on Mark’s own blog.

* Mark Pack is Party President and is the editor of Liberal Democrat Newswire.

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  • David Evans 8th Mar '20 - 11:12am

    It is good, at last, to hear how we can send our view to the Electoral Review Team, but sadly this article does not answer any of the very important questions asked on LDV about the team, the scope it has been given or its full proposals for getting as much valid input as possible. ‘E-mail us’ is a standard, but totally unstructured and inadequate response to a very important issue.

    What we all need to know about is what (from the responses they have had and their deliberations so far) the team think are the key questions they want answers on, what is in scope of their work and what will be ignored because it is outside the scope. Or if they haven’t got that far, tell us so we can make specific suggestions and perhaps offer us a mechanism so we can select which are the key questions.

    But please don’t go down the “We want everything from everyone” route. That will just lead to another unstructured mess.

  • Paul Barker 8th Mar '20 - 12:31pm

    There was ahuge failure of Leadership to tell us quickly that everything had changed, that our previous optimism was now misplaced & to lower our expectations. The reason we are feeling bad now is not because we did badly but because we were expecting to do better.
    There were actually 2 waves of optimism, the 1st resulting from the Defections of MPs from Labour & tories & the 2nd from our results in May.
    Dealing with the 1st wave was very tricky, it must have become obvious to our MPs very quickly that The TIGs were living in some bizarre fantasy world where they would “Replace” Us but we couldnt really criticise them without seeming to be the villains.
    The 2nd wave of optimism, after our results in May could have been controlled much more easily. Our Leadership at all levels should have telling us that the Boost in The Polls wouldnt last & that it would probably be over by Xmas. We were left feeling optimistic for far too long.

  • The publicity and media representation of the last election has been such that when I tell people that the Lib Dems had a vote increase of 1.3 Million compared to the previous one in 2017 they don’t believe me (I thought the Lib Dem vote crashed? they say).

  • I agree with Mike Read, but do not believe that the party helped. There should have been much more effort to find out what the reality on the ground was. When polls showed that the LiDems were doing well they were no doubt right. When the election came near and the LibDems were nowhere to be seen in their area, many no doubt went for their no. 2 choice. The lesson needs to be learned that local activity matters. Another lesson from the Euros people are not stupid. They understand the difference between the Euros and a General Election. We gave the impression we did not.

  • Dilettante Eye 9th Mar '20 - 11:30am

    “Another lesson from the Euros people are not stupid. They understand the difference between the Euros and a General Election. We gave the impression we did not. “

    Yes, and this will probably prove to be the source of the mistake the Lib Dem head office made.

    The Euro elections gave a substantial 20% + to the Lib Dems for pro- EU representatives. Effectively, those last Euro elections were a de facto mini- 2nd referendum. Unfortunately Jo Swinson did a read-through of that 20% for the Euros, and concluded that it was a 20% support for Lib Dems at a GE.

    It wasn’t, but Jo Swinson ran with the mistaken 20% belief, and gambled with all chips-on-the-table for a major Lib Dem GE win. As the weeks up to GE day passed, that 20% poll started to fall back to its normal position of 10-11%, but it was too late to backtrack on that initial hubris, from turning into egg on the face.

    I note also that some were critical of Jo Swinson facilitating a GE so early. However, her motivation to go swiftly for that GE, was likely that belief that she had a 20% poll in her favour. So in short, Jo Swinson saw it as a 20% approval poll leading her into a ‘bird in the hand’ gamble for a GE sooner rather than later.

    I guess the lesson is, be wary of trusting percentages, until you have done a deep analysis indicating what those numbers are a percentage of.

  • Peter Martin 9th Mar '20 - 12:45pm

    “Jo Swinson ran with the mistaken 20% belief”

    OK but what if she’d been right and the Lib Dems had indeed picked up another 8%, or so, of the vote?

    How can it have possibly worked? For a start, it would have been no use those votes coming from Labour or the SNP. That would have produced an even bigger Tory majority. Nearly all would have had to come from the Tories who finished up on 44%. How likely was that? Even so, what would have been the outcome if the voting had been: Tories 36%, Labour 24% and the Lib Dems 20%. There would still have been a healthy Tory majority

    Anyone can be forgiven for getting a prediction wrong. But to have likely ended up in an even worse mess, even if it had been right, shows a total lack of political nous.

  • Peter Martin 9th Mar '20 - 1:08pm

    The split in my last comment should have been: 36%, 34%, 20%

    Tony Blair won a majority of 66 seats on 36% of the vote in 2005.

  • Nonconformistradical 16th Mar '20 - 1:07pm

    What is the deadline for submitting views?

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