One of Obama’s key pledges in the US Presidential elections was major healthcare reforms. The US is a deeply divided nation on health as in many other policy areas – it is simultaneously home to some of the planet’s best hospitals, the best research in medical advances and the best healthcare practioners – and also home to some of the worst poverty and barriers to healthcare, the worst developed-world child mortality rates.
Without being facetious, almost all of my knowledge of the American healthcare system comes from my knowledge of US TV. And whilst House has access to an amazing battery of diagnostic tests, and Grey’s Anatomy shows how competitive training programmes for surgery are, Chicago’s ER is full of hobos having their toes cut off with nail clippers after losing them to frostbite in the snow.
46 million Americans are without healthcare insurance, and so have no access to the top-notch hospitals and treatment, resorting instead to the nailclippers at ER. By no stretch of the imagination are they all tramps.
By trying to address these problems, Obama is picking battles with some very resistant establishments, including highly profitable insurance companies with an essentially closed market. And in doing so, he has stirred up some hornets nests of misinformation claims.
Among these are a number of claims about just how awful the NHS is – as a model of “socialised healthcare” that some Americans want to avoid. They include the bizarre claim that Stephen Hawking would be dead if he had to suffer with NHS level care – all the more bizarre to anyone who knows that Dr Hawking is not, in fact, American and is very happy with the life saving treatment he receives on the NHS.
The strange claims for UK healthcare have prompted an online campaign on Twitter of people talking about the excellent care they have received and marking their words with the tag #welovetheNHS.
It’s one of the great shibboleths of UK politics. Everyone knows there are still improvements to be made in the NHS, but when some upstart colony starts critising it on the basis of misunderstood facts, we should all leap to its defence.
A few other posts on blogs I have read in the last few days make interesting reading: on the ObamaLondon blog, LDV’s friend Karin Robinson is doing her bit to debunk some myths. And Jonathan Calder’s Liberal England provides an historical perspective of the UK’s own battles to introduce “socialised healthcare” in the 1910s:
“If the Insurance Bill becomes law it will be advisable for us to leave England.”
Meanwhile the Evening News is warning that “we shall never boast of freedom again if we let this measure past,” and writing feelingly of “these days of highly paid servants”.
The cost of employer insurance for domestic staff is uppermost in many minds.
Some things never change.


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Defend the NHS from American Conservatives!
President Obama clearly understands that the US Economy would benefit from a major set of medical health reforms along the lines of the British NHS .
To continue life in the 21st C in this new era of medical technology and drugs now available on the market for improved heath care, would be sacrilegious and inhumane, to continue to deny these health opportunities, to almost 50 million Americans,whom cannot afford basic Medicare insurance.
President Obama stems from a different background to FD Roosevelt but will yet become the greatest social and economy innovating and reforming 44th President, when he passes through Congress,a Democrat led equivalent NHS, where all individul citzens are given the same access to health care in all 50 States.
When I was on holiday in Cornwall this month, I watched the excellent BBC portrayal of Dr James Niven ( Bill Patterson), in the drama about the `Spanish Flu Pandemic’.
Dr Niven due to his progressive single-mindedness as Medical Officer in Manchester, in 1918, curbed the `Spanish Flu’ epidemic and reduced fatalities to 20,000 out of a population of 1 million.
Dr James Niven still committed suicide in 1925, as he was thought to have remained so disillusioned by the attitude of the Health Authorities to the `Spanish Flu’ pandemic in 1918 believing more lives should have been saved by a co-ordinated approach.
Worldwide there were 70 million deaths from `Spanish Flu’ in 1918, even more than throughout the entire WW1 1914-18.
There was no co-ordinated NHS response to `Spanish Flu’ in 1918, in the UK and relatively higher casualties in London compared to Manchester but in the US today whenever there is a national flood disaster or Flu epidemic there is still no capacity within a NHS equivalent health system, to take charge of a Federal life saving and treatment response.
In Britain, by dint of David Lloyd-George, the founder of National Health Insurance in 1911, under a Liberal Government, it paved the way for the NHS to be born and brought into existence, for all citizens, in 1948 and this was supported by all eminent Liberals of the time, including William Beveridge.
It is time that the US allocated its enormous world economic super power status to passing legislative Health Reforms that brings health care in to the lives for all Americans and not just the rich but the poorest families.
http://www.freemarketcure.com/
That free market cure website is hilariously bonkers. John Cohn of the New Republic and Ezra Klein (formerly of American Prospect and now Washington Post) are the people to read.
And as usual, British people with no clue start criticising others.
The NHS cannot be reformed, it is fundamentally broken. That’s not to say the US system is not broken, it is. The US government puts up health care costs and wages war against the poor in many ways.
Looking at this whole thing I ask cui bono. The answer? The medical and pharmaceutical industries and politicians who can point to having ‘done something’.
I wish people would defend the freed market against conservatives instead of accusing government of being free market.
Have a read of, it may enlighten a few people : http://c4ss.org/content/892
On this subject, I’d rather trust Paul Krugman than absurdly dogmatic right-wing libertarians any day of the week.
See: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/
Sorry – I have to agree with Charlotte – Stockholm syndrome…
http://charlottegore.com/2009/08/12/we-love-the-nhs.html
Tristan’s link suggests the removal of any sort of licensing or accreditation system from health care. So far as I can see, it advocates that absolutely anyone can tout for health care business. That would be “freedom”, removing state restriction which for people like Tristan is the source of all evil, and the ensuing competition would mean we would all get better and cheaper health care.
This is something like we already have in “complementary health”, where dubious products and services are heavily promoted by those who have a vested interest in them. In fact, most of this is a rip-off, I know many people who have been suckered into paying huge amounts of money to dubious practitioners of various sorts.
A problem with health care is that it’s not a market where I know what I want and can search for the best provider. Instead, I am reliant in the experts telling me what I need, which is a matter of great concern if those experts also make money from providing me with what they say I need. I myself have some scientific background, so can work out when people trying to sell me something in this line are saying rubbish, but most people don’t have that sort of background, which is why they seem so readily conned by smooth-talking salespeople.
One might also note there is some of this in the American approach to religion. The “set up your own Church” movement is booming, no need for accreditation or the strict training and ordination of established denominations, and profit collected directly and used by the self-accredited pastors. If one thinks that religion is useless, one can see how this uselessness booms and cons people through the lack of a system of control. But if one does value religion, one can see here how it leads to bad religion driving out good.
We may note how the clamour against Barack Obama’s healthcare proposals is being led by those who have a vested interest in the profits that can be made through the haphazard insurance systems that exist in the US. One can see how skilled these people are at telling lies. They have the wealth to manipulate the market of ideas so their ideas gain prominence and those which are not so geared to making personal profit do not get the airing they deserve.
Tristan says that “war against the poor” is waged by a system of licensing. He seems unable, however, to see how war against the poor and gullible and those simply lacking in expert knowledge is waged by smart salespeople. I myself would greatly prefer a system where health care is rationed by those who take no financial benefit from providing it and I have reason to believe will make an objective assessment to one which is the free-for-all market nirvana which people like Tristan advocate. I don’t want to have to spend my time thinking and worrying about health care, and poring over manuals and league tables to try and work out which is the best provider for me and who is a quack and who is really qualified. That is a diminution of my freedom, it is not enjoyable, it takes up time and mental energy I would rather be spending on things I like. What I want is for that health care to be there when I need it and for me to be able to trust it. A system of state accreditation seems to me to be the best way to provide that.
The absolute key thing about the NHS is that I know that, should I suddenly take ill five minutes from now, the care I receive will not be dependent on which insurance policy I have or how much room there is on my credit card. Yes, there is an obligation in the US to treat emergency cases, but the follow-up care will be dependent on your insurance scheme, and they will look at it from a financial perspective.
However, what’s really important is to have a healthcare system which works for the people of that particular country. What I object to about this is the misinformation and lies about the NHS being circulated within the US (primarily by that great bastion of objective reporting, Fox News.) The NHS works here. Yes, sometimes things go wrong, but on the whole it works for us, and we don’t want to change it. That doesn’t mean it’ll work in the US.
Do we love the NHS?
I like it but really love it, we as a country sure like to have a go at something we love if thats true.
More at http://www.colin-ross.org.uk
Colin
Matthew,
I absolutely agree. Removing any form of licencing or accreditation from health care leaving market-based solutions to fill the gap would leave a situation rather like the one we now “enjoy” in the building trades. A quick scan of yellow pages reveals many organisations attempting just that yet somehow cowboy builders abound. The least worst option is usually to ask friends and neighbours for a recommendation; I wouldn’t want to have to do that if I ever fell ill with some obscure disease.
The UK NHS may not be perfect but it gernerally works well, delivers good service and provides universal health care for all according to their needs. What is wrong with that? That fact that US conservatives think this is “dangerous and orwellian” just shows how weird these people are. Why cant they enter into rational, calm debate based on respect instead of screaming and shouting and lying? Beats me.
God bless the NHS!
OMG how can anyone have anything against free healthcare for everyone? What about people who can’t afford healthcare, what, you just let them die? How barbaric! I am SO glad we’re not like that over here in the UK. God bless the NHS, may she keep improving and have more funding! It took a long time but as a society, we evolved enough so that everyone has a decent base line of living – and still we strive to improve that. The NHS is a key symbol of our progress as a nation, society and culture. Something the US is yet to discover.
The US objectors are saying there are limits on what the NHS will provide. This is inevitable and we may see more of it as we discover new but very expensive ways of keeping people alive. The same would apply with any private insurers – the policies would have get-out clauses to avoid unlimited liability.
The US objectors are both exaggerating the extent of the limits, and hiding the fact that the existence of the NHS doesn’t prevent people from purchasing private health care if they feel the NHS is not providing what they need. Reality is that if people are left to die here because they fall outside the limits the NHS allows, how more so is it in the US where there isn’t the universal health care service of the NHS.
@Freddy
OMG how can anyone have anything against free healthcare for everyone? What about people who can’t afford healthcare, what, you just let them die?
Because sadly, Freddy, the majority of people are ignorant and prejudiced. Particularly in the US, anything with a “social” or “socialised” tag, or even just socialism, is, stupidly, indistinguishable from communism, an unhinged point of view that the Republican party does everything in it’s power to foster.
I was 4 years old when the NHS was created and I was lucky to survive to see it. Private healthcare, in one form or another, was what we had prior to the NHS and as in the US today, if you couldn’t afford it, you suffered. Or died. Where I lived, one paid the GP 2/6d (12.5p) for a surgery visit, or 5/- (25p), for a home visit – that, in the late 40s, a lot of money and, as I had developed asthma and bronchiectasis as a result of simultaneously catching whooping cough and measles at age 2, which seriously damaged my lungs, the outlay for my parents was almost ruinous.
I’m sitting here looking at a toolbox – it’s where I keep the 17 different drugs I need to take every day of my life. Were it not for the NHS I could not possibly afford those drugs, and would surely have died many years ago.
True, the NHS isn’t perfect, but very few things are – perfection, while desirable in all things, is only rarely attainable, and mainly exists in the minds of the terminally unrealistic – but it provides the majority of people with the healthcare they need, free at the point of use. A very few people fall through the cracks, it’s true, but with privately-funded healthcare it would not be a few, it would be millions, as it is in the US. Is that what we want here? I think not.
The NHS could be better, but that is no reason at all to abolish it, and anyone who thinks it is is seriously misguided. And that’s being polite!
Oops, sorry – I DO know that there’s no apostrophe in the possessive “its”!
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