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Credit where credit’s (mostly) due: Sunday Telegraph and polling

The internet seems to have got a bit excited about the latest ICM poll, something which The Voice tends not to do, but given my past complaints about the media and polling it seems only fair to point out that the Sunday Telegraph looks to have given up its brief flirtation with a non-British Polling Council firm (a flirtation I criticised at the time).

Moreover, the paper’s report sensibly compares the poll results with the previous ICM poll, even though that was commissioned for (shock! horror!) a different newspaper. The tendency to airbrush out polls carried …

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A look back at the polls: January ’09

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.

Here, in chronological order, are the results of the eight polls published in January:

Tories 41%, Labour 34%, Lib Dems 15% – YouGov/The Sun (9 Jan)
Tories 43%, Labour 33%, Lib Dems 15% – Populus/The Times

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Political polling back to early 1990s levels

Cross-posted from The Wardman Wire:

The 1992 polling debacle

The 1992 general election was a bad one for the British political polling industry. During the campaign, the vast majority of polls put Labour ahead and of the final round of polls three put Labour ahead, one put Labour and the Conservatives neck-and-neck and only one – Gallup – gave the Conservatives a lead, but even that was a mere 0.5%. The actual result? A Conservative lead of 7.6%.

A declining number of opinion polls

The response of the polling industry was a series of post-mortems and experiments with changes in methodology. Amongst those who commissioned polls, though, the response was also one of greater scepticism of the value of commissioning polls. Add in first the economic pressures of the 1990s and then the widespread seemingly inevitability of a Labour general election victory after Tony Blair become Labour leader, and it is no surprise that during the 1992-97 Parliament the number of opinion polls was consistently lower than in 1987-1992.

Individual periods of political excitement and then the approach of the general election did result in burst of extra polls, but consistently the number of polls conducted ran at a lower level than in the previous Parliament.

In the next two Parliaments – 1997-2001 and 2001-5 – there was very little sign of the number of opinion polls recovering. Perhaps no surprise again as in the polls that were conducted Labour held a large lead, with only the occasional brief periods of exception. With one party consistently largely ahead, the interest in individual poll results was understandably muted except at those moments such as the petrol price crisis of autumn 2000, when the Conservatives very briefly went into the lead in the polls.

Number of opinion polls recovers

Politics since 2005 has, however, been far from consistent and predictable and, indeed, the number of polls commissioned has picked up once again, as can be seen from the graph*. Across 2008, the number of polls was only 10 less than in 1990.

Number of political opinion polls carried out in the UK 1987-2008 (click on image for full sized graph)

Although only two firms were doing political polling in both 1990 and 2008 (ICM and MORI), the overall number of firms has changed little. Five firms polling in 1990 were no longer political polling by 2008 (ASL, Gallup, Harris, NMR and NOP), but this is nearly balanced out by the four firms which were not polling in 1990 but were doing so in 2008 (BPIX, ComRes, Populus and YouGov).

Is the increasing number of political opinion polls a good thing?

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YouGov Euro poll: Lib Dems at 15%

Today’s Telegraph publishes the result of a YouGov opinion showing the current state of public voting intentions for this June’s elections to the European Parliament. The figures in brackets are changes from actual 2004 result:

Con 35% (+8)
Lab 29% (+6)
LD 15% (n/c)
UKIP 9% (-7)
Grn 5% (-1)
BNP 4% (-1)
Nats 4% (+2)

All opinion polls come with health warnings, and LDV flags them up loud-and-clear. This is all the more so for Euro polls because (i) we don’t have any other pollsters’ surveys to compare these figures to, and (ii) the general record of opinion polls for predicting Euro and local election national …

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A look back at the polls: December ’08

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.

Here, in chronological order, are the results of the eight polls published in December:

Tories 39%, Labour 35%, Lib Dems 17% – Populus/Times (8 Dec)
Tories 37%, Labour 36%, Lib Dems 14% – ComRes/Independent (14 Dec)
Tories 41%, Labour 35%, Lib Dems 15% – YouGov/Sunday

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A look back at the polls: November

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.

Here, in chronological order, are the results of the nine polls published in November:

Tories 43%, Labour 30%, Lib Dems 18% – ICM/Sunday Telegraph (9 Nov)
Tories 41%, Labour 35%, Lib Dems 16% – Populus/Times (10 Nov)
Tories 40%, Labour 37%, Lib Dems 12% –

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Lib Dem tax policy: the media’s starting to listen, so now will the public get to hear about it?

Earlier today, Lib Dem Voice published this extract from Nick Clegg’s speech to the Royal Commonwealth Society summarising the Lib Dems’ policy of tax cuts for low- and middle-income households:

Real tax cuts – big, permanent and fair – for the people who need them. Funded by making the wealthy pay their fair share, ending the special exemptions and loopholes they’ve profited from for so long. Liberal Democrats would reduce basic rate income tax by 4p in the pound. That would give nearly £1000 back to a worker on £30,000 a year. Funded by four changes.

One: ending upper rate pensions

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More on mobile phones and polling

Last week, Mark Pack explained the impact that mobile phones have polling.

 

his year’s Presidential election phone pollsters who include mobiles regularly finding a higher level of support for Barack Obama than those who ignore mobiles. The difference in support between these two approaches is large enough to matter in a close election: Obama’s lead is around four percentage points higher when mobile phone only households are included.

As polling day closes in on us, the gap has widened – with some pollsters as many as 13% ahead for Obama when they include cell phone users.  The explanation? Nate Silver at …

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YouGov poll result trivia corner

Compare, contrast the wonders of polling questions which should give consistent answers:

Has your opinion of Gordon Brown gone up or down in recent weeks, or has it stayed much the same?
My opinion of him has gone up 21%
My opinion of him has gone down 27%
My opinion of him has stayed much the same 48%
Change: -6%

Are you satisfied or dissatisfied with Gordon Brown as Prime Minister?
Gordon Brown, polling 17-19th September: net -58%
Gordon Brown, polling 27-29th October: net -38%
Change: +20%

So people’s views of Gordon Brown as Prime Minister have improved over the last few weeks, even though overall people say their view …

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A look back at the polls: October

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.

Here, in chronological order, are the results of the ten polls* published in October:

Tories 42%, Labour 30%, Lib Dems 17% – ICM/Guardian (3 Oct)
Tories 45%, Labour 31%, Lib Dems 15% – YouGov/Telegraph (4 Oct)
Tories 45%, Labour 30%, Lib Dems 15% – Populus/Times

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ICM and the Liberal Democrats

I’ve blogged several times about how YouGov’s poll ratings for the Liberal Democrats are consistently lower than those from other pollsters (in part, it looks, because YouGov consistently gives the Conservatives higher support amongst female voters than other pollsters), but what about ICM, which consistently has some of the highest ratings for the Liberal Democrats?

Last week Mike Smithson looked at this question on Political Betting, highlighting the different wording used by the different polling companies in their voting intention questions.

However, I think Mike missed one of the most important differences. ICM (and only ICM) helps concentrate people’s minds …

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The impact of mobile phones on opinion polling

Opinion pollsters using the telephone for political polls in the UK and the USA face some very different challenges.

In the UK, phoning a random selection of people and getting them to agree to take part in a survey has, for more than a decade, regularly produced samples that are too heavily weighted towards Labour sympathisers, necessitating all sorts of – at times very controversial – adjustments to be made to the raw figures in order to make the poll results more accurately representative of the population as a whole.

There isn’t an equivalent pro-Democrat bias in US phone polling, though instead …

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Mike Smithson on why Lib Dem poll ratings vary so much

Mike Smithson, founding editor of PoliticalBetting.com and occasional Lib Dem Voice contributor, has written an interesting post on his site analysing why the Lib Dems’ poll ratings vary so much between the different pollsters – this is a question that LDV has also looked at a few times, including this past week, with two polls (by YouGov and ICM respectively) placing the party at 14% and 21%.

Mike notes:

All the pollsters have different ways of processing the data and the ICM mathematical approach is probably the most friendly to Nick Clegg’s party. But that is not enough to

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YouGov poll: Vince would be the best Chancellor for Britain right now

Channel 4 News has commissioned a poll from YouGov in the 60 marginal constituencies David Cameron needs to win to form a Government. LDV doesn’t dwell on individual poll results – the only sensible way to use polls is to look at trends – but it’s worth highlighting one finding which is unlikely to get much publicity.

YouGov asked the question: “If you were to put political party preferences to one side who would be the best Chancellor for Britain right now?”

And here’s what the public said:

Alistair Darling – 15%
George Osborne – 12%
Vince Cable -19%
Don’t know –

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The polls: what, and who, to believe?

I’ve noted on a couple of previous occasions here on Lib Dem Voice, the sharp divergence which different polling companies’ methodologies produce in the Lib Dems’ ratings. The trouble is that very few political journalists take much notice of such details: how often have you heard sweeping statements from commentators that talk about ‘the polls’, as if they all asked the same questions in the same way, producing the same results?

The trend in recent days had appeared more than usually gloomy for the Lib Dems, with the last seven polls placing the party in the 14-18% range.

Yet …

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ComRes financial crisis poll: public not so impressed by Gordon’s (think Dave would have handled it worse)

Tomorrow’s Independent will carry a poll from Communication Research, the first poll conducted since last week’s financial bail-out of the banks (and therefore of more interest than LDV would normally give to any individual poll). John Rentoul reports the headlines over at the paper’s Open House blog here:

We asked whether people agreed or disagreed with the following statements:

It is right that taxpayers’ money should be used to bail out banks.
Agree 37% Disagree 58%
I will scale back my Christmas spending plans to save money.
Agree 62% Disagree 36%
Gordon Brown’s decisive handling of the bank crisis means that Labour has a

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Is there anything more the party can do to turn the polls around?

Obsessing about any individual poll is a mug’s game, as we at Lib Dem Voice have long argued. However, we have also always said that polls – taken together and observed over a reasonable time period – are useful evidence of trends. And the trend for the party at the moment is, let’s be honest, not the happiest.

Three weeks ago, the Lib Dems benefited from a polling spike – two polls putting us at or above 20% – possibly as a result of increased publicity surrounding the party conference. Since then there have been seven polls (three from YouGov, …

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A look back at the polls: September

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.
Here, in chronological order, are the results of the eight polls* published in September:

Tories 44%, Labour 25%, Lib Dems 17% – ComRes/Independent (6th Sept)
Tories 46%, Labour 27%, Lib Dems 16% – YouGov/Sunday Times (14th Sept)
Tories 52%, Labour 24%, Lib Dems

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BPIX: a quick update

A quick follow-up to the questions over BPIX’s secrecy: the British Polling Council has confirmed that BPIX has never approached it with a view to joining.

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BPIX and the mysterious web registration

Haivng criticised the polling firm BPIX yesterday for – uniquely amongst those doing published political polling in the UK – not being a member of the British Polling Council and not even getting anywhere close to its standards for transparency, I thought I’d have another try at contacting them today.

They’ve never replied to any of my emails sent to the address on their one-page “under construction” (for several years) website, so I thought I’d see what contact details there are for their domain registration:

Domain name:
bpix.co.uk

Registrant:
British Polling Index

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant’s address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has

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Why the latest BPIX poll is bad news for all parties

The Sunday Telegraph is running an opinion poll tomorrow about the levels of support for each party, commissioned from the pollster firm BPIX. It’s a switch from their usual pollster, and only the second time since the 2005 general election that BPIX has been used by a paper other than the Mail on Sunday.

It’s therefore potentially the start of a significant change in the pattern of polling and, regardless of what the figures in this poll say, the publication of the poll is bad news for all parties – and anyone who follows political news.

That’s because uniquely amongst the firms …

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The pointlessness of uniform swing calculations

Lots of interesting details to digest in today’s mammoth YouGov marginals poll (including, ahem, the importance which voters give to whether or not a candidate is local – in brief, it’s very important), but one point I’ve not yet seen anyone make is how heavily it undermines the seat predictions for the Liberal Democrats which come from uniform nation swing calculations made using Electoral Calculus.

These are very popular calculations, most notably regularly topping blog postings over at Political Betting, but compare the YouGov figures for the number of Liberal Democrat seats from the marginals poll with those …

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Tomorrow’s YouGov: Liberal Democrats on 20%

While Liberal Democrat Voice doesn’t do polls, as regular readers know, news reaches us of a new voting intention poll from YouGov which will be reported in tomorrow’s Telegraph. The poll was carried out at the end of this week.

Here are the headline figures compared with the last YouGov poll:

  • LD: 20% (+4)
  • Con: 44% (-2)
  • Lab: 24% (-3)

This is the highest rating for the Liberal Democrats in a YouGov poll since November 2005 (and YouGov traditionally poll the Lib Dems lower than other companies).

The gap between us and Labour, at four points, is the smallest this Parliament, and you …

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Nick Clegg and Lib Dems clean up in Newsnight’s Luntz focus group

Those who watched BBC2’s Newsnight last night will have been treated to the sight of something pretty remarkable: party leader Nick Clegg and the Lib Dems being shown to be the overwhelming favourites – well ahead of either Labour or the Tories – among a selection of voters assembled by US pollster Frank Luntz. You can watch the 13-minute segment in full here.

Now, before we get too carried away, I should note that many Lib Dems, myself included, have expressed a fair degree of scepticism about Mr Luntz’s work for Newsnight in the past; so …

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‘On five out of eight measures of the main characteristics of parties, the Lib Dems are now regarded more favourably than either Labour or the Conservatives’

So writes Peter Riddell in today’s Times, with their annual ‘state of the parties’ poll:

A plus point for Mr Clegg is that the party’s image has improved over the past year after slipping previously. On five out of eight measures of the main characteristics of parties, the Lib Dems are now regarded more favourably than either Labour or the Conservatives, particularly on being in touch with ordinary people. For instance, there has been a 15-point jump over the past year to 63 per cent in the number saying the Lib Dems are “for ordinary people, not just the best off”.

The

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Poll: Clegg seen as to the left of Lib Dems

The results of today’s Times/Populus poll of voters’ views about the main parties and their leaders will bring a wry smile to the faces of many Lib Dems today.

Voters have been asked to place themselves, the three main parties and their leaders on a Left-Right spectrum. Political opinions are more complicated than just this measure (for instance, covering liberal versus authoritarian), but the spectrum provides a revealing pointer about how voters view politics and how their opinions change.

On a 0 to 10 scale, Left to Right, the position of the average voter fluctuates from year to year

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Do 83% of Lib Dem voters want lower immigration?

Yesterday saw the launch of a paper by Labour MP Frank Field and Conservative MP Nicholas Soames called Balanced Migration: a new approach to immigration. The duo worked with the anti-immigration campaign group Migrationwatch, so no prizes for guessing that they urged much lower levels of immigration; or ‘balanced migration’ as they have re-branded it.

They commissioned the polling company YouGov to ask a couple of questions, including this one:

The latest migration figures from the Office for National Statistics show that 600,000 people immigrated to the UK in the year leading up to June 2007, whereas 400,000 people

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What is it with YouGov and female voters?

It’s a well-established pattern that during this Parliament internet pollster YouGov consistently gives the Liberal Democrats lower levels of support than other pollsters (as, for example, I previously blogged about on this site).

Looking at the details of polls published so far this year, this pattern remains but there is also an interesting detail when it comes to male versus female voters.

YouGov, MORI and ComRes are the three of the main polling companies who also provide a gender breakdown of party levels of support using the same methodology as for their headline voting question.

Comparing the results they find for each …

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A look back at the polls: August

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.

Here, in chronological order, are the results of the seven polls published in August:

Tories 46%, Labour 26%, Lib Dems 17% – YouGov/News of the World (10th Aug)
Tories 45%, Labour 25%, Lib Dems 18% – YouGov/Sunday Times (17th Aug)
Tories 44%, Labour 29%, …

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A look back at the polls: July

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.

Here, in chronological order, are the results of the eight polls published in July:

Tories 41%, Labour 28%, Lib Dems 19% – Populus/Times (8th July)
Tories 47%, Labour 25%, Lib Dems 16% – YouGov/Sunday Times (13th July)
Tories 45%, Labour 24%, Lib Dems 16% …

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