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Does torture work?

At the end of last month The Washington Post ran a piece from a former US military interrogator who worked in Iraq. It addresses head-on the question of whether torture is needed to fight terrorism:

I joined an elite team of interrogators attempting to locate Zarqawi. What I soon discovered about our methods astonished me. The Army was still conducting interrogations according to the Guantanamo Bay model: Interrogators were nominally using the methods outlined in the U.S. Army Field Manual, the interrogators’ bible, but they were pushing in every way possible to bend the rules — and often break them. I

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Proposition 8: The Editorial and the Musical

LDV has previously mentioned California’s vote to ban gay marriage. The New Yorker has an article (one I find unduly rude towards Mormons’ own history in making its point), suggesting Prop 8 will be the last stand for homophobia in the USA:

Like a polluted swamp, anti-gay bigotry is likely to get thicker and more toxic as it dries up… This sort of sludge may or may not prove to be of some slight utility in the 2012 Republican primaries, but it is, increasingly, history … “We believe all families matter and we do not believe in discrimination,” Barb Young said. “Therefore, our family will vote against Prop 8.” It wasn’t enough this time. But the time is coming.

Meanwhile, less seriously, a group of comedians and performers have provided their own musical, interpreting the voters’ choice.

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The other US election myth: Obama’s fundraising base

Cross-posted from The Wardman Wire:

As the dust settles and the hard numbers start to become available, it increasingly looks as if key parts of the grand picture painted during the US presidential election were wrong. This picture – of unprecedented interest by ordinary people in the election – was repeatedly illuminated with stories of record numbers of people voting and donating.

We already know that the voting story is largely myth, with turnout looking like it will come out up just 1% on 2004. It also now looks as if the picture of record numbers of people donating …

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Spoilt ballot papers, US-style

The knife-edge Minnesota Senate race is being recounted, and you can browse some of the ballot papers under scrutiny here. I particularly liked the attempt to disqualify one ballot paper because it had a fingerprint … and as for the Lizard People Party, there were clearly robbed of a vote.

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LDVUSA: Presidential Prediction competition results (OFFICIAL)

A fortnight ago, Lib Dem Voice published the unconfirmed results of our competition to predict the electoral college outcome of the race to be the next President of the USA.

At the time of writing, we assumed Missouri’s 11 votes would end up in Senator McCain’s Republican column; and that’s now been confirmed. (Bang goes the Big Mo’s ‘bellweather’ status for predicting Presidential winners). However, in the interim, President-elect Obama picked up one of Nebraska’s electoral votes.

All of which to-ing and fro-ing gives a final electoral college tot-up of Obama 365, McCain 173.

But none of which changes the rankings as originally published, and so we tip our hats, and award our penultimate LDV mug, to Joe Taylor, Lib Dem blogger, councillor and all-round psephological swot.

Full results, with updated scores, as below.

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Olbermann on California’s Proposition 8

On the same night as celebrations of Barack Obama’s historic victory two weeks ago, there was the troubling rejection of existing recognition of gay marriage in the state of California by voters there.

Many LDV readers will be familiar with Keith Olbermann, the MSNBC news anchorman, whose on air editorials on progressive issues seek to counter-balance those of the right-wing Fox News. Here’s his latest “special comment” on the issue.

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A New Liberal Order

From Time Magazine, Peter Beinart’s take on the Obama Presidency: it is “just the beginning… Shifting attitudes about government will make Democrats the ruling party for a generation”

The death and rebirth of American liberalism both began with flags in Grant Park. On Aug. 28, 1968, 10,000 people gathered there to protest the Democratic Convention taking place a few blocks away, which was about to nominate Lyndon Johnson’s Vice President, Hubert Humphrey, thus implicitly ratifying the hated Vietnam War. Chicago mayor Richard Daley had warned the protesters not to disrupt his city and denied them permits to assemble, but they came anyway. All afternoon, the protesters chanted and the police hovered, until about 3:30, when someone climbed a flagpole and began lowering the American flag.

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LDVUSA: How Obama made it happen

A week ago, the USA was going to the polls, and Lib Dem Steven Gauge was on-the-spot in Ohio. Here’s what he saw…

As Churchill said, “Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.” On November the 4th 2008 they finally got it absolutely right.

As the Presidential election results began coming in, I was in the ballroom of the Renaissance Hotel, Columbus, after two weeks of working as a volunteer on the Obama Campaign in the crucial swing state of Ohio. When CNN called the result and the crowd erupted, I …

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Warning: don’t believe the American Presidential election turnout myth

You’ve seen the stories: massively effective political machines, registering and then mobilising people in unprecedented numbers, leading to big early voting, huge queues at the polls on the day and colossal turnout.

One problem though: it’s a myth. For all the numerous reports, headlines and footage we’ve had telling us the story of turnout soaring up, up and away, the truth is starting to emerge that, actually, turnout was pretty much the same as four years ago. Overall it looks as if turnout will be 61-62%, only slightly up on 2004’s 61% turnout. 2004 was a relatively high turnout year, …

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Telegraph: Obama’s victory speech co-written by Lib Dem

The Telegraph has the rather surprising story of Jacob Rigg’s something-to-tell-the-grandkids-about claim to fame:

The US President-elect’s speech to hundreds of thousands of supporters in Chicago on Tuesday was one of the most widely-watched and repeated political addresses in recent history.

It was also partly written in a flat in Notting Hill, West London.

Parts of the speech were crafted by Jacob Rigg, a volunteer advisor to the Obama campaign.

Mr Rigg works for The Society of Trust and Estate Practitioners, which lobbies and advises on tax issues, including the rules that apply to non-domiciled foreigners living in the UK.

He also

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Our Man In Chicago: Paul Elgood reports back on that election night

Lib Dem councillor Paul Elgood was one of the 125,000 people celebrating Barack Obama’s election victory in Grant Park, Chicago, on the night of 4th November. Here’s his eyewitness report…

Chicago: Nov 4th 2008

It seems as if the whole world has come to Chicago. Planes full of the world’s press have descended on the city and were met by perhaps half a million party-goers hoping to celebrate the election results.

Barack Obama voted first thing this morning, having finished a final whirlwind tour of key states. He voted at dawn to make the point to his supporters to vote as early …

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Democrats may still get to magic 60

Lib Dem Voice’s Alex Foster has drawn attention to the mandatory recount in Minnesota’s Senate race, in which Al Franken currently trails Senator Norm Coleman by a mere 571 votes in almost 2.5 million. But what of the other three Senate races which are still listed as undecided? With the Democrats currently on 56, it is theoretically possible that they could make a fillibuster proof 60 – 40 majority.

In Oregon, Senator Gordon Smith (Republican) is trailing Democratic challenger Jeff Merkley by almost 23,000 votes. A blog-post at The Oregonian newspaper, citing a local pollster, is …

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How many light bulbs does it take to change a President?

Taegan Goddard’s Political Wire brings us this gem of a quote from President-elect Obama:

“Well, the truth is, Brian, we can’t solve global warming because I fucking changed light bulbs in my house.”

— Sen. Barack Obama, quoted in Newsweek’s special election issue, during debate preparations on how he wanted to answer if Brian Williams asked him, “What’s a personal thing that you’ve done that’s green.”

If even Barack Obama didn’t feel he could get away with saying that, The Voice guesses there wasn’t a cat in hell’s chance of Ming Campbell succeeding.

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LDVUSA: Presidential Prediction competition results (unofficial)

Well, the outcome’s in no doubt, but the actual result is – which means we can’t yet officially announce a winner of our Lib Dem Voice Presidential Prediction competition.

As it stands, we’re still pending the official confirmation of who has gained North Carolina’s 15 electoral college votes. At the moment, it’s narrowly in the Obama fold, in which case the final electoral college vote will be: Obama 364, McCain 174.

If that’s eventually confirmed it will mean Joe (the) Taylor, Lib Dem blogger and councillor, and US electoral expert, will have duly triumphed, with an on-the-nose prediction. In which case, we won’t need to use our tie-breaker, the popular vote, where the current projection is Obama 52%, McCain 46%.

In fact a number of competition entrants came pretty damn close in the end. Here they are in descending order of closeness (assuming that North Carolina vote holds true for Obama):

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Possible good news from Minnesota

An outside chance for the Dems last night was to take a Senate seat in Minnesota, with comedian and author Al Franken as the Democratic candidate.  You may know Al from his work on Saturday Night Live, his books Lies, and the lying liars who tell them or Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot – or even his walk on part in Bernard Goldberg’s seminal work 100 People who are Screwing Up America (Al Franken is #37).

All seemed lost for Franken as the race in Minnesota tightened and tightened and eventually it seemed his GOP rival had overtaken. …

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Two surprises of US election night

First – ITV wiped the floor with the BBC in the quality of its election night coverage. A great mix of news, statistics, humour and drama. What has particularly stuck in my mind was a very short, but absolutely on the button, description of what the Virginia result could mean – the home of American slavery helping elect the first black man as President. Informed, concise and moving.

And all done, by the looks of it, on a much lower budget than the BBC’s. Though it pains me to say so – as someone who likes the concept of the BBC, …

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Obama’s acceptance speech

If you weren’t up to watch it live at 5am GMT (as the hard-core of LDV readers were), then do take 18 minutes out of your day today to watch President-elect Obama’s acceptance speech, delivered shortly after his stunning election victory over Senator John McCain was confirmed.

The rhetoric is, as ever, dazzlingly revivalist – in many ways I’m an Obama-sceptic, but I defy anyone not to be bestirred by his words. Note, too, the perfect poise of this guy; the immense calm, stillness and assurance he projects. Who knows what kind of President he will make? But it’s hard to imagine a more impressive Presidential candidate.

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Clegg welcomes Obama’s election

The Guardian reports the welcomes from all three main party leaders to the morning’s news that Barack Obama is the President-elect of the USA:

Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, was more open at his delight in a Democrat victory. “British voters may not have been able to vote in this election, but its outcome is vital to our future,” he said. “Climate change, the global economy, and threats to our collective security now demand a radical new approach by Barack Obama, leaving the Bush era firmly behind.”

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Congratulations President-elect Obama

Well, who imagined we could ever use that headline? No matter how many times it’s repeated – to the point the cliche becomes stale – this is a truly historic moment, both for President-elect Barack Obama, and for the American people. We at Lib Dem Voice salute you.

If you want to re-live the night through the LDV live-blog, click here. And if you want to see what folk were prepared to predict the result would be before the election, then click here.

Feel free to continue the morning-after-the-night-before discussions here…

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LDVUSA Election Nite 2008 live-blog

Well, tonight’s the night when we finally find out: has the USA elected its first black President? Or are the opinion polls wronger than they’ve been in history? Join us tonight, here on LDV, for our election-nite live-blog, and feel free to contribute your comments as we type.

Don’t forget, you can follow what’s happening when, and what to look out for, by using Lib Dem councillor Joe Taylor‘s indispensable cut-out-n-keep download’n’print guide to the American Elections here.

10.52 pm
Well, as you can see (or not) at the moment, CoverItLive seems to have fallen victim to the mass server overload that seems to be bringing down websites left, right and centre. (Not that I check the ones on the right so much). So, for now, I’m afraid for now we’re reliant on steam-powered Internet live-blogging. Sorry, and all that.

10.56 pm
PoliticsHome is feeding us first exit poll data: 62% of voters named the economy as their top issue in deciding who to vote for; Iraq and terrorism trailed with 10% and 9% respectively. This is a domestic, bread ‘n’ butter election.

11.08 pm
Exit poll – with all the caveats – from Virginia via Talking Points Memo blog: “The early exits we’re seeing out of Virginia suggest a close race with an advantage to Obama. The split of the white vote looks similar to what Jim Webb got in 2006, but with blacks making up a substantially larger percentage of the electorate.”

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LDVUSA – join us here live from 11pm

The Lib Dem Voice collective will be live-blogging the US election from 11pm tonight, via the magic of CoverItLive. So keep the site open as you watch/listen/browse your way through the twists and turns of a truly historic night. As well as our chat and your comments, we’ll also have a couple of posts from Our Man in Grant Park Chicago, Lib Dem councillor Paul Elgood. See you in just over a couple of hours.

Oh, and by the way, if you see any exit poll leaks on t’intenets, (i) ignore them – they’re probably wrong; and (ii) …

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California’s Proposition 8

Earlier today I wrote about just what is on an American ballot, and explained very briefly about California’s 12 State Propositions and the 22 Local Propositions for San Francisco.

Now here’s a bit more information about Proposition 8, which “Eliminates rights of same-sex couples to marry”. To underline that a bit more – yes, gay couples can currently get married in California – and properly married, not just a domestic partnership.

I’ve been following the debate about this for months, largely thanks to gay New York blogger Joe.My.God.

Same sex marriage in California is incredibly complicated, and has gone through a number of changes of legislative and judicial origin. These include

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So, just what are they voting on today?

Most people know that the US election today will select the next President of the United States.  It’s perhaps less widely known that a huge selection of other races are being run today, with citizens facing a huge raft of different candidates at different elections, from federal to state to city.  It’s this complexity that leads to voting machines allowing electors to select a party ticket, which in turn lead to hanging chads.

Here’s a handy round up of US elections happening in 2008:

Federal elections

The presidential race

Senatorial races for 35 senators (terms last 6 years with a third of the …

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Learning lessons from the US elections: four legal differences you need to know

Cross-posted from The Wardman Wire:

With a new US President this week, the following few weeks are likely to see all sorts of prognostications about the lessons UK political parties and campaigners can and should be drawing.

However, many of the differences between American and British election campaigns are not the result of American campaigners having good ideas the British should copy, but rather are the result of four key legal differences between the two countries.

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More on mobile phones and polling

Last week, Mark Pack explained the impact that mobile phones have polling.

 

his year’s Presidential election phone pollsters who include mobiles regularly finding a higher level of support for Barack Obama than those who ignore mobiles. The difference in support between these two approaches is large enough to matter in a close election: Obama’s lead is around four percentage points higher when mobile phone only households are included.

As polling day closes in on us, the gap has widened – with some pollsters as many as 13% ahead for Obama when they include cell phone users.  The explanation? Nate Silver at …

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An Endorsement

“He has proved both his ability and his integrity; he has had experience enough in public affairs to make him a statesman, and not enough to make him a politician. That he has not had more will be no objection to him in the eyes of those who have seen the administration of the experienced public functionary whose term of office is just drawing to a close.”

That’s a quote from a magazine as it endorsed the less experienced candidate, who came from Illinois, in a presidential election – but not this one.

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Last chance to predict the US Presidential result (and win an LDV mug!)

You have, as I type, just under 10 hours to submit your predictions for the LDVUSA prediction competition: entries must be received by 9 am, Tuesday, to qualify. To find out what you need to do, and to enter your prediction, click here. Winners will receive general acclaim and a limited edition Lib Dem Voice mug – what more incentive could you need?

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LDVUSA’s election night guide

We’re very thankful to Lib Dem councillor and blogger Joe Taylor who has produced an excellent cut-out-n-keep download’n’print guide to the American Elections for all those of us who are planning on staying up a goodly part of the night to see what the new dawn brings on the other side of the pond.

Joe’s guide is available for download here as a 1mb PDF file. Set out in UK time, it gives an hour-by-hour guide of what’s expected to happen in terms of polls closing, states declaring, and a handy list of which states are predicted …

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Which websites will you be checking on Tuesday night?

For eager consumers of US Presidential election news, the climax is approaching: on Tuesday night, we’ll get to watch the results of the epic clash between John McCain and Barack Obama. Which websites will Lib Dem Voice readers consider invaluable to following the dynamics of the election as it unfolds, or tracking House and Senate races, as we watch the TV coverage?

Here are my three suggestions:

1. Real Clear Politics is a hive of polls and punditry, with links to the most important stories.
2. Politics Home, the British imitator of Real Clear Politics, has good US coverage of its …

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LDVUSA: your chance to enter the Presidential election prediction competition

After perhaps the most fascinating electoral contest in modern political history, with more twists, turns and surprises than could ever have been imagined two years ago when it all began, the race to the White House is drawing to a close. In just three days (barring any hanging chads) we will know if the USA has elected its first black, or its oldest ever, President.

What we’re inviting Lib Dem Voice readers to do is to predict the likely outcome. The winner will earn not only the respect and acclaim of the Lib Dem blogosphere, but also the penultimate, limited edition LDV mug.

Here’s what you need to do to enter. First, predict the winner; secondly, predict the result in the electoral college; and, thirdly, predict the popular vote Senators Obama and McCain will attract.

So, if you believe the RealClearPolitics.com averages of the polls right now, you might enter the following answers:

1. Obama
2. Obama 353, McCain 185
3. Obama 50%, McCain 44%

The winner will be the reader who predicts the winner, and is closest to the eventual electoral college vote; the popular vote will determine the result in the event of a tie.

Please leave your entries in the comments box, below, and feel free to show your working. You can use a pseudonym if you prefer to remain anonymous, but you must use a valid email address for your entry to be included. The final closing date for entries is 9am, Tuesday morning.

Here for your interest and info is the latest round-up of which way the states are likely to line up in the electoral college, according to the average of the latest polls. ‘Solid’ means a +10% lead; ‘likely’ a +4% lead, and ‘edging’ means a 0-4% lead.

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